Comments on: Fake! - Counterfeit Bluetooth Accessories http://www.e-series.org/archives/260 Where everything starts with an E - Nokia E50, E51, E60, E61, E61i, E62, E65, E66, E70 E71 and E90 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:06:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: gamalogic http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-37587 gamalogic Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:29:04 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-37587 An ebay seller earns million of dollar from counterfeit motorola bluetooth. He is gamalogic/superbigstore! Anyone bought bluetooth from him please post here. An ebay seller earns million of dollar from counterfeit motorola bluetooth.
He is gamalogic/superbigstore! Anyone bought bluetooth from him please post here.

]]> By: Oiseaudenuit http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-23210 Oiseaudenuit Sun, 22 Apr 2007 04:22:57 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-23210 Most of the time it is very easy to detect a Counterfeit item; first look for the size and also the weight, the copies are usually lighter, also the button will not have the same feel and like the BH-800 when you pair it with your phone you will see BH800 no dash in between or if it has it a funny noise when pairing. For the Samsung it look like they are closer to the real thing but still there it will be harder to pair and same thing in the pairing a weird noise. Also look for the Instruction book in the English part, you will find many mistakes, you can tell that it's not theirs first language, just like me! Overall price is also everything, how can they sell a BH-800 under the cost price??? If you see a BH-800 under $90 it doesn't smell good because it's under the cost!!! Be carefull they are also many phones from China that's are Counterfeit but hard to tell from the outside if you are not working in the cell phone industry and they don't last very long! The MORALITY of this story stop buying from Asia and buy Made in USA, Canada & Mexico at least buying in North America keep the jobs on this side YOU WANT YOU JOB BACK OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW? WELL START BUYING FROM YOUR COUNTRY ****AND TELL YOUR FRIENDS THIS**** Thanks for ready.... Most of the time it is very easy to detect a Counterfeit item; first look for the size and also the weight, the copies are usually lighter, also the button will not have the same feel and like the BH-800 when you pair it with your phone you will see BH800 no dash in between or if it has it a funny noise when pairing. For the Samsung it look like they are closer to the real thing but still there it will be harder to pair and same thing in the pairing a weird noise. Also look for the Instruction book in the English part, you will find many mistakes, you can tell that it’s not theirs first language, just like me!

Overall price is also everything, how can they sell a BH-800 under the cost price??? If you see a BH-800 under $90 it doesn’t smell good because it’s under the cost!!!

Be carefull they are also many phones from China that’s are Counterfeit but hard to tell from the outside if you are not working in the cell phone industry and they don’t last very long!

The MORALITY of this story stop buying from Asia and buy Made in USA, Canada & Mexico at least buying in North America keep the jobs on this side

YOU WANT YOU JOB BACK OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW? WELL START BUYING FROM YOUR COUNTRY ****AND TELL YOUR FRIENDS THIS****

Thanks for ready….

]]> By: Greg http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-9784 Greg Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:57:33 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-9784 Yes,I just bought a Nokia bh-800 from Radio Shack, and it says made in china.This whole bootlegging thing is so out of control that ever since i bought the headset,I am still hoping it is real(I am confident it is after looking at various websites that have insight on fakes).http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Counterfeit-Headsets---How-to-recognize-and-avoid-them-what-are-the-differences-article-a_1753-p_6.html Counterfeit Headsets - How to recognize and avoid them; what are the differences? (phone Arena) Check out this site. It is very helpful!!! I worry now that people will buy fakes from ebay then realize that they are fake and buy a real one from a store, then return the fake one in the real package to get the money back ,and its like paying the bootleg price for the real thing,then people like me or you go buy one from a regular trusted store and end up with a damn fake!Thats why I am still wondering about mine. Yes,I just bought a Nokia bh-800 from Radio Shack, and it says made in china.This whole bootlegging thing is so out of control that ever since i bought the headset,I am still hoping it is real(I am confident it is after looking at various websites that have insight on fakes).http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Counterfeit-Headsets—How-to-recognize-and-avoid-them-what-are-the-differences-article-a_1753-p_6.html
Counterfeit Headsets - How to recognize and avoid them; what are the differences? (phone Arena)

Check out this site. It is very helpful!!! I worry now that people will buy fakes from ebay then realize that they are fake and buy a real one from a store, then return the fake one in the real package to get the money back ,and its like paying the bootleg price for the real thing,then people like me or you go buy one from a regular trusted store and end up with a damn fake!Thats why I am still wondering about mine.

]]> By: Barry http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-9049 Barry Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:33:49 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-9049 I too have just been a victim of purchasing a knock-off BH-800 headset from China and have just filed an ebay dispute to try and obtain a refund. Can someone tell me if the real and original headsets are made in china? The box sure does look real... I too have just been a victim of purchasing a knock-off BH-800 headset from China and have just filed an ebay dispute to try and obtain a refund.

Can someone tell me if the real and original headsets are made in china? The box sure does look real…

]]> By: admin http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8748 admin Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:50:10 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8748 Hi Tomtom, If you look carefully at the photos you can clearly see that they are fake. One of the devices have a "Nokan" logo. I couldn't find any pictures of fake BT accessories to I used photos I had of fake phones. Sorry to confuse you ;-) Hi Tomtom,
If you look carefully at the photos you can clearly see that they are fake. One of the devices have a “Nokan” logo. I couldn’t find any pictures of fake BT accessories to I used photos I had of fake phones. Sorry to confuse you ;-)

]]> By: Shaffin http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8738 Shaffin Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:46:10 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8738 To Janek: I used PayPal and my bank account funds, not a credit card, and PayPal has its own resolution mechanism - that is what I tested and documented above. What I really want is a response from ebay, PayPal and even Nokia to this post - to explain their actions in all this. Even if my claim is ultimately successful - incredibly, PayPal is now evaluating copies of my Registered Mail documentation to Hong Kong, so this isn't over - buyers like me are no better off. Thanks. To Janek: I used PayPal and my bank account funds, not a credit card, and PayPal has its own resolution mechanism - that is what I tested and documented above. What I really want is a response from ebay, PayPal and even Nokia to this post - to explain their actions in all this. Even if my claim is ultimately successful - incredibly, PayPal is now evaluating copies of my Registered Mail documentation to Hong Kong, so this isn’t over - buyers like me are no better off. Thanks.

]]> By: TomTom http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8715 TomTom Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:41:30 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8715 I'm comfused - the article is about bluetooth accesories so why have photos of a nokia phone? where are the photos of the fake bluetooth accesories?! I’m comfused - the article is about bluetooth accesories so why have photos of a nokia phone? where are the photos of the fake bluetooth accesories?!

]]> By: Janek http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8707 Janek Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:23:35 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8707 Have you not considered a chargeback through your bank? Assuming you used a credit card, which you would be wise to do? They would likely be more sympathetic to your point of view... Have you not considered a chargeback through your bank? Assuming you used a credit card, which you would be wise to do? They would likely be more sympathetic to your point of view…

]]> By: Farhan http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8220 Farhan Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:35:10 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8220 In Pakistan we usually get original equipment when bought from auhtorised dealers , my E 70 was not and still Nokia Care Line Pakistan helped me in fixing it , for fakes , we have fake batteries , chargers , covers , accessories , bodies at a fraction of the cost but no one complains In Pakistan we usually get original equipment when bought from auhtorised dealers , my E 70 was not and still Nokia Care Line Pakistan helped me in fixing it , for fakes , we have fake batteries , chargers , covers , accessories , bodies at a fraction of the cost but no one complains

]]> By: Jim McDonald http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8214 Jim McDonald Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:59:41 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8214 While my E61 doesn't appear to be a fake they packaged a knockoff cigarettle lighter adapter that when I recently plugged it into my car the phone simply said no charge. Fortunately I had another adapter from a previous nokia phone, and with the help of the plug adapter, I was able to use that one to charge my phone while in the car. Buyer beware, what is in the package may not actually come from Nokia. While my E61 doesn’t appear to be a fake they packaged a knockoff cigarettle lighter adapter that when I recently plugged it into my car the phone simply said no charge. Fortunately I had another adapter from a previous nokia phone, and with the help of the plug adapter, I was able to use that one to charge my phone while in the car. Buyer beware, what is in the package may not actually come from Nokia.

]]> By: Shaffin http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8213 Shaffin Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:57:44 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8213 Thanks for the responses so far. The parties I would most like to hear from is ebay/Paypal. As disappointed as I am with Nokia's lack of support, how exactly do ebay/Paypal justify making the agrieved party jump through so many hoops. It seems to me that as a marketplace, ebay/Paypal have a responsibility to put the onus - and expense - on the Seller at some point. That never happened. I'm therefore curious if the various attornies general/FTC might not see this as, in effect, support of counterfeiters. Let's face it: this was not about the money. I lost way more time and money than the cost of the fake. I went as far as I did to test the overwhelming absurdity and effective complicity of how ebay/Paypal behaves. Tiffany litigators, take note. Thanks for the responses so far. The parties I would most like to hear from is ebay/Paypal. As disappointed as I am with Nokia’s lack of support, how exactly do ebay/Paypal justify making the agrieved party jump through so many hoops. It seems to me that as a marketplace, ebay/Paypal have a responsibility to put the onus - and expense - on the Seller at some point. That never happened. I’m therefore curious if the various attornies general/FTC might not see this as, in effect, support of counterfeiters. Let’s face it: this was not about the money. I lost way more time and money than the cost of the fake. I went as far as I did to test the overwhelming absurdity and effective complicity of how ebay/Paypal behaves. Tiffany litigators, take note.

]]> By: Liew http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8210 Liew Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:45:50 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8210 Well, for China, its best to have someone around the area check out the equipment and then purchase it on behalf first. Thats why its a common practise in to pay only when item arrives, if it does not fit what you think of it is to be, you can just reject the item and not pay for it. This practise however limit within China. I got my E61 from China and did make the effort to visit the shop to know that its at least credible and test the system there before taking it. My 2 cents worth. Well, for China, its best to have someone around the area check out the equipment and then purchase it on behalf first. Thats why its a common practise in to pay only when item arrives, if it does not fit what you think of it is to be, you can just reject the item and not pay for it. This practise however limit within China.
I got my E61 from China and did make the effort to visit the shop to know that its at least credible and test the system there before taking it.
My 2 cents worth.

]]> By: miodrage http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8208 miodrage Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:48:36 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8208 Well, Shaffin, looks like he had u. Nevertheless u r fighting a big battle, but sadly, I sincerely doubt that u can beat the fakers. Lets settle this, I am 100% on ur side. I hate fakers too. Luckily, here at Serbia, I cannot buy anything on E-Bay, 'cause there is no way they can ship me my stuff, or make me pay. PayPal also doesn't know about Serbia:) So, here I have to go to a dealer and buy something. So if he gives me a fake, and doesn't want to refund me, he has to face that he has a family, an unsafe trip home, has about 200 bones in the body all very fragile under a baseball bat. I hope every1 understood this. Ofc. because of all this Serbia won't be a PayPal member for a very long time :D Well,
Shaffin, looks like he had u. Nevertheless u r fighting a big battle, but sadly, I sincerely doubt that u can beat the fakers. Lets settle this, I am 100% on ur side. I hate fakers too. Luckily, here at Serbia, I cannot buy anything on E-Bay, ’cause there is no way they can ship me my stuff, or make me pay. PayPal also doesn’t know about Serbia:) So, here I have to go to a dealer and buy something. So if he gives me a fake, and doesn’t want to refund me, he has to face that he has a family, an unsafe trip home, has about 200 bones in the body all very fragile under a baseball bat. I hope every1 understood this. Ofc. because of all this Serbia won’t be a PayPal member for a very long time :D

]]> By: Mike http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8170 Mike Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:53:39 +0000 http://www.e-series.org/archives/260#comment-8170 China has very different laws and regulations about patents and copyrights compared to those used in the US and Europe. The market is flooded with counterfeit and blatant copies of hardware but very little is done about it by the authorities. Another clear example is all the iPod knock-offs you see. Engadget often reports on these rip-offs. The best way to prevent buying a fake is just to purchase from reputable resellers. Ebay is always risky. Sure you'll get a lower price, but especially when purchasing from places like China you have to be very aware of the fact that there is a fairly high probability you will receive a fake. China has very different laws and regulations about patents and copyrights compared to those used in the US and Europe. The market is flooded with counterfeit and blatant copies of hardware but very little is done about it by the authorities. Another clear example is all the iPod knock-offs you see. Engadget often reports on these rip-offs. The best way to prevent buying a fake is just to purchase from reputable resellers. Ebay is always risky. Sure you’ll get a lower price, but especially when purchasing from places like China you have to be very aware of the fact that there is a fairly high probability you will receive a fake.

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